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Posted by1 year ago

Electrify America has now deployed Tesla Powerpacks at over 140 charging stations

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An example of the inherent synergy vs. competitiveness of the EV players over the next 10 years where EV's are competing more with ICE vehicles than each other.

More chargers help ALL EV mfgs. More EV's help ALL charging resellers.

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Op · 1 yr. ago

Volkswagen isn't in the business of energy storage but needed some energy storage, so Volkswagen bought some from Tesla.

That's about it.

If Volkswagen didn't buy it from Tesla, VW would have bought it from elsewhere.

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Smart.

Now to double down: install solar canopies too. I mean...they've already got the batteries. Why wouldn't you?

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Not a lot of space or not a lot of sun. Not always worth the trouble is they're effectively only paying for a few spots.

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· 1 yr. ago
2018 Model 3

Why wouldn't you?

A lot of these chargers are installed on rented/borrowed land, and the rental contract may not include the provision of being able to install a canopy of any kind. Plus, solar's capacity for energy generation is minuscule compared to the capacity for energy usage of a DC fast charger.

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It's expensive and would require a price hike (any investment you make at these stations has to be paid for by the customer via the price of power). A solar roof would also not gather a lot of power relative to what is dispensed to charging cars. You see some companies do this (e.g. Allego in Europe) but it's just a PR gag.

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Why wouldn't you?

It doesn't make business sense for most of their locations. It's a significant expense, with little return on that investment (particularly over the timeframes EA cares about).

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They are installing canopies.

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More effort than its effectiveness

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Op · 1 yr. ago

Electrify America's official press release:

https://media.electrifyamerica.com/en-us/releases/164

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· 1 yr. ago
2018 Model 3

What a fascinating partnership.

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Op · 1 yr. ago

I wouldn't call it a "partnership", but rather a business transaction.

Volkswagen is not in the energy storage business.

VW needed some energy storage, so it bought some from Tesla.

If VW didn't buy it from Tesla, VW would have just bought it elsewhere

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Op · 1 yr. ago

The battery systems will be deployed to mitigate higher power demand charges and manage operating costs by avoiding or reducing demand and energy charges during peak charging periods.

Each site will consist of a 210 kW battery system with roughly 350 kWh of capacity. With a modular design, more capacity can be added over time.

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· 1 yr. ago
Chevy Volt, DIY PEVs

That's what I've been talking about, it won't help peak times when every charger is being used continuously and there's a line, but it can help on cost for more isolated locations.

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Need cheaper chemistries for storage. Curios to see how Na based chemistries compare.

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Of course they are. Your statement is nonsense.

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· 1 yr. ago
2021 VW ID.4 Pro S RWD

It's worth pointing out that nothing in EA's press release at https://media.electrifyamerica.com/en-us/releases/164 indicates that all of these batteries are supplied by Tesla; perhaps that's the case, given that EA previously announced that they were using Tesla Powerpacks at some locations, but Electrek seems to be leaping to a conclusion here that may not be correct. It'd be odd for EA to put all of their eggs in one basket as Tesla is not the only company producing battery storage solutions.

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